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From: bernecky@eecg.toronto.edu (Robert Bernecky)
Subject: Re: J not to be developed for Mac
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Date: 12 Sep 94 03:58:49 GMT
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In article <35098c$mr6@nic.umass.edu> murray@math.umass.edu (Murray Eisenberg) writes:
>I quite agree with Richard's lament about no new J for Mac (and let's
>not forget Power Mac!) being done.
>
>I can well understand the commercial reasons for this -- just compare
>the market share for PCs and Unix boxes to that for Macs.  But it's
>still a great shame that the educational market, where there are quite
>a few Macs in use, is getting short shrift.  You cannot expect folks
>to want to use J if they haven't seen it, and one of the places to see
>it is in the college/university setting.

Now just hold on here. Bear in mind that ISI is like a few people working
in a garage, except they don't have a garage. ISI does not have the
human resources to develop products for many markets, particularly with
their price point. Give it time, people! If you want them to hot up the
development schedule for Macs, send them a purchase order for
about $250k worth of Mac software, and I suspect that'll change things.

I must admit it sort of pisses me off... No, it DOES piss me off that
netters sit out there bitching about lack of software [AND lack of
free/cheap software], yet are not willing to put their money where
their mouth is.

>What I'll really miss on the Mac J is the ability to manipulate
>windows, buttons, dialog boxes, etc., the way one can with J 8 for Windows.

So, get off your butt, and work out a development agreement with ISI.

